Critical Management Studies (CMS)

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Thank you for this prompt Scott.  This is an issue I have been pondering too.  I think there is a gap, in the U.K. at least, for public conversations between academics about their ideas.  I do believe we can do more to harness the possibilities afforded to us by vlogs or podcasts.  One starting point therefore, might be to create filmed conversations between critical scholars that we can distribute via social media formats etc.  

Best
Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Great idea, Carole - I'm sure that we'd be able to put up many of these videos on our AOM site and publicise them from there

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Mark Learmonth
Durham University
Durham
+44 0 191 3345428
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-16-2019 06:52
From: Carole Elliott
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Thank you for this prompt Scott.  This is an issue I have been pondering too.  I think there is a gap, in the U.K. at least, for public conversations between academics about their ideas.  I do believe we can do more to harness the possibilities afforded to us by vlogs or podcasts.  One starting point therefore, might be to create filmed conversations between critical scholars that we can distribute via social media formats etc.

Best
Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Glad you like this idea, Mark. I would be happy to organise such a recorded conversation during the conference in Boston. We would need to ensure the recording is of good quality, but I can ask what facilities AoM will have during the conference.

Does anyone have a specific idea regarding the subject of a first vlog/podcast?

Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-17-2019 02:49
From: Mark Learmonth
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Great idea, Carole - I'm sure that we'd be able to put up many of these videos on our AOM site and publicise them from there

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Mark Learmonth
Durham University
Durham
+44 0 191 3345428

Original Message:
Sent: 05-16-2019 06:52
From: Carole Elliott
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Thank you for this prompt Scott.  This is an issue I have been pondering too.  I think there is a gap, in the U.K. at least, for public conversations between academics about their ideas.  I do believe we can do more to harness the possibilities afforded to us by vlogs or podcasts.  One starting point therefore, might be to create filmed conversations between critical scholars that we can distribute via social media formats etc.

Best
Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Hello everyone. This is a hot topic.

Great idea Carole.
I agree that a podcast is an option. If we, as a division, could host regular discussions in the podcast format, it could also foster some conversations beyond the academic setting. Off course it is something that is demanding and so on. But, for instance, we could pick authors of papers from some of the journals that publish critical research and develop a conversation to try to make it more accessible. I don't know.

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-17-2019 07:40
From: Carole Elliott
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Glad you like this idea, Mark. I would be happy to organise such a recorded conversation during the conference in Boston. We would need to ensure the recording is of good quality, but I can ask what facilities AoM will have during the conference.

Does anyone have a specific idea regarding the subject of a first vlog/podcast?

Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL

Original Message:
Sent: 05-17-2019 02:49
From: Mark Learmonth
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Great idea, Carole - I'm sure that we'd be able to put up many of these videos on our AOM site and publicise them from there

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Mark Learmonth
Durham University
Durham
+44 0 191 3345428

Original Message:
Sent: 05-16-2019 06:52
From: Carole Elliott
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Thank you for this prompt Scott.  This is an issue I have been pondering too.  I think there is a gap, in the U.K. at least, for public conversations between academics about their ideas.  I do believe we can do more to harness the possibilities afforded to us by vlogs or podcasts.  One starting point therefore, might be to create filmed conversations between critical scholars that we can distribute via social media formats etc.

Best
Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Original Message------

Hello everyone. This is a hot topic.

Great idea Carole.
I agree that a podcast is an option. If we, as a division, could host regular discussions in the podcast format, it could also foster some conversations beyond the academic setting. Off course it is something that is demanding and so on. But, for instance, we could pick authors of papers from some of the journals that publish critical research and develop a conversation to try to make it more accessible. I don't know.

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745
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Hi Bill

Many thanks for the question. The CMS community is configured to allow former members – or indeed non-members – to opt-in to the Discussion for free. To do so however, the person must log in (authenticate) to the Connect@AOM website. This means they must have an AOM account. Please feel free to share this link with prospective members – a custom link to help filter new/non-logged in members specifically to CMS:

• For former/lapsed AOM members, they can use their previous account credentials in order to login. Clicking the above link will bring them to a login page (click "forgot password" link if help is needed retrieving this information).  Once logged in, the user will be re-directed to a "Communities I can join" page that is filtered on the CMS division. Click the blue "Join" button to opt-in to the CMS Discussion.

 

• For someone who has never been an AOM member, they must create an AOM account. This can be done for free by clicking the blue "Create an account" button that appears on the right side of the log-in page. Non-members must follow the onscreen instructions to fill out the form to create an account, which includes creating a user name and password.  Once that is created and they are logged in, then they should similarly be re-directed to the "Communities I can join" page as described in the first bullet.

 

To make the process even easier, I have asked the Academy to set up an extra page on our site to can help direct prospective members to the options available - i.e. to join as a (paid) member, as well as the instructions for Discussion participation only.

Hope that's all clear - and please do encourage anyone interested in CMS issues to join our debates. 

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Mark Learmonth
Durham University
Durham
+44 0 191 3345428
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-19-2019 08:36
From: Bill Cooke
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hi is this group only open to members of the AoM, or past and never-were members as well ?

Bill

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Original Message------

Hello everyone. This is a hot topic.

Great idea Carole.
I agree that a podcast is an option. If we, as a division, could host regular discussions in the podcast format, it could also foster some conversations beyond the academic setting. Off course it is something that is demanding and so on. But, for instance, we could pick authors of papers from some of the journals that publish critical research and develop a conversation to try to make it more accessible. I don't know.

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745
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Hi Scott

I presume you are referring, at least in part, to the demise of expertise in our contemporary post-truth society.  Good to render us more visible especially on this and the political crisis that is confronting us all.

David

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David Knights
Distinguished Professor
Lancaster University
Bristol
441173281709
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Hi Scott. Thanks for starting this debate.

Are you thinking more on things in line with "The Conversation", and the LSE blog posts, or initiatives that would go beyond that?

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Hello Carole, all, 

Yes, I was thinking about the challenge to expertise, David - debate is good, for sure, but not always on any basis [Flat Earth Society, anyone?]...

Practically, yes Amon, LSE blogs are a really good example, and I like The Conversation a lot too [including its funding model]. The key challenge, I think, is twofold: a) having something interesting and relevant to say, and b) getting the opinion/information to an audience. Obviously I think the people involved in CMS always have something interesting to say, much more so than 'uncritical' colleagues; the second, I think Carole's initial idea is a really good one, especially because it retains our independence.

Regards, scott



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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-18-2019 08:09
From: Amon Barros
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hi Scott. Thanks for starting this debate.

Are you thinking more on things in line with "The Conversation", and the LSE blog posts, or initiatives that would go beyond that?

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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The same debate about the role of 'experts' in public debate is happening in Canada.  I can think of  multiple ways in which we as academics engage in public debates through university- community engagement (university - civic society led public forums in controversial issues, community - university action research projects, field schools in partnership with citizens organizations, etc. ) Certainly,  there is a push  toward "knowledge transfer" however, it is important to recognize that the "expertise" takes different forms and come from different ways of life. 

As I am writing this, I recall with fondness at least a couple of CMS sessions just after the 2008 crisis, one on Contributions to Practice and other one on alternatives views on the economy with Mike Lewis and Gar Alpevoritz, two interesting  public intellectuals/community activists.  Getting Out of AOM- CMS session has been always been a great way to foster awareness about broader societal issues, I wonder if we can use those visits to raise our collective voice and stand up publicly against the injustices we witness during those visits... maybe through podcast, public CMS letter, etc.

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Ana María
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-20-2019 08:53
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hello Carole, all,

Yes, I was thinking about the challenge to expertise, David - debate is good, for sure, but not always on any basis [Flat Earth Society, anyone?]...

Practically, yes Amon, LSE blogs are a really good example, and I like The Conversation a lot too [including its funding model]. The key challenge, I think, is twofold: a) having something interesting and relevant to say, and b) getting the opinion/information to an audience. Obviously I think the people involved in CMS always have something interesting to say, much more so than 'uncritical' colleagues; the second, I think Carole's initial idea is a really good one, especially because it retains our independence.

Regards, scott



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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom

Original Message:
Sent: 05-18-2019 08:09
From: Amon Barros
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hi Scott. Thanks for starting this debate.

Are you thinking more on things in line with "The Conversation", and the LSE blog posts, or initiatives that would go beyond that?

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Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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Hi everyone,

There seems to be support for a podcast/vlog of some kind.  Within the CMS division we have a wide range of interests, and in-depth knowledge of many subjects and contemporary issues.   A difficult choice for us will be what we wish a first podcast/vlog to focus on. Does anyone have any suggestions?  

Best wishes
Carole

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Carole Elliott
Roehampton University
LONDON SW15 5SL
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-20-2019 08:53
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hello Carole, all,

Yes, I was thinking about the challenge to expertise, David - debate is good, for sure, but not always on any basis [Flat Earth Society, anyone?]...

Practically, yes Amon, LSE blogs are a really good example, and I like The Conversation a lot too [including its funding model]. The key challenge, I think, is twofold: a) having something interesting and relevant to say, and b) getting the opinion/information to an audience. Obviously I think the people involved in CMS always have something interesting to say, much more so than 'uncritical' colleagues; the second, I think Carole's initial idea is a really good one, especially because it retains our independence.

Regards, scott



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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom

Original Message:
Sent: 05-18-2019 08:09
From: Amon Barros
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Hi Scott. Thanks for starting this debate.

Are you thinking more on things in line with "The Conversation", and the LSE blog posts, or initiatives that would go beyond that?

------------------------------
Amon Barros
Lecturer
FGV-EAESP (Sao Paulo)
Sao Paulo
+551137997745

Original Message:
Sent: 05-15-2019 03:00
From: Scott Taylor
Subject: Speaking out/standing up

Colleagues, there's a lot of discussion here in the UK at the moment about the role of 'experts' in public debate, especially debates on management, organization, and economy. Critical perspectives are sometimes well represented, sometimes not - so I'm looking to collect together ideas on ways to engage, or ways to participate in the public square. All thoughts very welcome.

Regards, Scott

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Scott Taylor
University of Birmingham
United Kingdom
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